Be wary of dther99 and Michael the gamer

Apparently, one cannot leave an honest comment without fear of retaliation in the archives. I'm not worried about it; I'm not losing money over it. haha
I just thought I would pass on a kind warning about the goings on over there. Just as many had predicted, a larger slew of mangled games is being uploaded into the archives. Then a surprising number of votes are being cast with high scores for these non-working error-filled games.
I myself did not vote on the games. I simply entered my comments about how, in one instance, the game is unfinishable even if you follow the added walkthrough (or "walkthrou" as one gent put it).

It very well may be that the poster of the game and the commentor/score poster are the same person logged in under two different names.

My example is a game poster named dther99. The commentor of this game is Michael the gamer. Now in one case I might have sounded a little more harsh than others but not nearly to the level of davidw. (I still like you though, David! hehe)

My review on a game was this:

I'm not going to rate this. If I did, it would be a one or a negative number. Please make an actual game before posting on here. This file seems to be no more than a practice file to see if commands can be used.
"Its pie" when you look at the pie.
According to the walkthrough, you have to "pull the book" but the commands "pull the book", "pull book", "pull", "pull the book that says lever" and "pull book that says lever" do not work.
By the way, you must type "book that says lever" when you want to do something with it... look, x, take, speak to.
I played it longer than it took to create it, I'm sure.... which wasn't long, I assure you.

His (Michael the gamer) reply was this:

I know it wasn't good but why the negative feelings?
Man if your a teacher all those kids that you teach will have a hard time.
and guess what?
Your Kings Quest is gone from the 10 Best rating games
lol

and this:

You just improving on making great games.
That jerk Steve Lingle is a negative guy.
Just Ignore him
That Walkthough was Helpful

Quite laughable, really. The only thing accurate about his comments is that he has the magical power of removing games off the top 10 list. I don't mind people giving me bad ratings if a game is bad but being given a bad rating by a grammar-impaired child makes me think that these people are in charge of the archives. Either put a happy rating with a happy score or cry yourself to sleep when your game is given a bad rating for your honesty.
Since my life savings went into making the game...I guess I'll have to go sell my house and live in a box now. Michael the gamer has taught me a lesson. HAHA

EDIT:
I missed one... hehehe:

Michael the gamer wrote:OY! HOW DARE YOU!
CANT YOU MIND YOUR STUPID BISNESS STEVE LINGLE?
I CAN RATE THIS GAME IF I WANTED TO ...
YOUR KINGS QUEST... YOU DIDNT MADE THE GAME!
IT WAS CREATED BY SIERRA AND KONAMI
ITS SOOOOOO BORING I WOULD GO TO SLEEP
NOW LET ME GIVE THAT GAME A 1 STAR RATING JUST TO TEACH YOU.
......STUPID JERK

Jee-sus! There's some drivel on there. A quick glance at the main page shows me game descriptions like:

this time, not only get out, but fight the maniac! (hint: the maniac is alergic to pie.)...

the best actually it shit...

its too easy.....

this is just a game im making for my clan..i just started and i wanted to show them how it is..but feel free to comment and rate.

Looks like the local nursery for delinquent idiots recently got its internet connection fixed.

Is anyone moderating the main page? And if not, why not? Someone ought to ban the lot of them and delete their games straight off.

Whatever good Dr Froth's IFComp entry has done for Quest in terms of how it's viewed as a credible IF system would be gone in a moment if anyone from outside the community saw that pack of idiots using Quest.

I wouldn't mind moderatering. Sure I'd have to sit there and check each 'game' was actually a real game and what seems to be happening again... If no-body else is volenteering for the one-way trip to hell?

I'll volunteer if moderators are implemented.

Maybe have a kind of Tribunal which check games before hand and moderate ocmments, rating, etc? A team of us might me better in case some-one can't do any checking for a while....

REMEMBER ME ?
YOU THINK YOU SHOULD BE WARY OF DTHER99 AND ME?
WHY CANT YOU JUST MIND YOUR OWN BISNIESS?

#1

Comment by Steve Lingle
19 Nov 2007

"You can even type a walkthrou in about 5 secounds

*Walkthrou*
Go Right and then out"

... then why did you grace this with a 3 star rating? (...and your own misspellings)

CANT ANYONE POST A COMMENT OR POST IF THEY LIKE IT OR NOT?

#2
HAVENT YOU CHECKED ALL OFF THE GAMES THAT I LEFT A COMMENT

ASSASSIN

The the best Game I ever Seen!
this game has a lot of description
And I liked the ending

Well Done Mocha Man and Eager Elmer!

Rating: 5 STARS

#3
HOW CAN A COMMENT WORRY YOU SO MUCH?

I REMEMBER I THOUGHT YOU A LESSON....... BUT NOOO YOU HAD TO ADD A TOPIC

ADDING A MODERATER IN THE FRONT PAGE OF TEXTADVENTURES.CO.UK IS THE WORST IDEA EVER IVE EVER HEARD

AND I GOT 2 REASON WHY SOME PEOPLE MAKE THOSE SHORT GAMES-
1.THOSE QDK GAME EDITOR LITE THEY ONLY LIMIT GAMES TO 6 ROOMS AND 30 OBJECTS
2.SOME PEOPLE DONT HAVE GOOD IDEAS

ATTENTION EVERYONE
STEVE LINGUE IS A GUY THAT DOESNT HAVE A BRAIN AND IF YOU POST A GAME OR COMMENT THAT HE MAKES A COMMENT THAT YOU DONT LIKE DONT MAKE HIM PUSH YOU!
Heres some examples:

Comment for Escape 2. (also known as part 2)
19 Nov 2007

I'm not going to rate this. If I did, it would be a one or a negative number. Please make an actual game before posting on here. This file seems to be no more than a practice file to see if commands can be used.
"Its pie" when you look at the pie.
According to the walkthrough, you have to "pull the book" but the commands "pull the book", "pull book", "pull", "pull the book that says lever" and "pull book that says lever" do not work.
By the way, you must type "book that says lever" when you want to do something with it... look, x, take, speak to.
I played it longer than it took to create it, I'm sure.... which wasn't long, I assure you.

Comment for ESCAPE!-boring edition
19 Nov 2007

"You can even type a walkthrou in about 5 secounds

*Walkthrou*
Go Right and then out"

... then why did you grace this with a 3 star rating? (...and your own misspellings)

Comment for Pain Labyrinth
19 Nov 2007

Nick, you bothered to save? Some rooms say "if you reached this room, you're sure to die" and some say that a ticking started. Even if you're many rooms away, you'll die in an apparent explosion. I considered doing a little map but I don't think I'll bother.
By the way, in a pitch black room, I was able to read writing on a wall without the aid of any light. I'm superman!... or a raccoon with night vision.

Aren't you glad I'm not rating these?

Review of Killer Syringe
28 Oct 2004

Sorry. Demo or not... This game is similar to a load of random writing. The commands don't work which you are told to use. The spelling, as indicated several times in these reviews, is more than bad.

You can take the wallet and the key even though you can't see it before killing the old man.
In fact, you can take any object without killing the person who is holding it.

You cannot win even following the walkthrough...

Really consider re-writing this game.

Rating: 1 star

Mummy, heee-eeeeeeeeeeellllpppppppppp! The toddlers have invaded the forum!

Mu-mmmmmmmyyyyyyyy!!!!!

I never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with davidw.
Seriously, whoever you are, Michael the Gamer, sod off.
You're a complete idiot and your input is not welcome here.

*awaits personal attacks on me*

Caps lock does not make your case any strong, if anything it makes it weaker, as it looks like you can't even see you've left it on...

A moderator would be a good idea in case people post spam, vulgar comments or rate their own games under another name, etc.

Steve has a very good reputation here as some-one who comments well, and has made some good games. I've thought about making other game into text versions too, you really need to know the inter working of some games and know the plot, etc inside out to do so, and is a kind of tribute to the game...

By the way, now that DavidW hates you, he will never stop. He has strong opinions and high standards.

Michael, you also spelt 'attention' wrong, it's not 'attencion'.

Also I wonder why Dther99 hasn't posted at all on the forums? I'm sure the forum dis-allows multiple users with the same email address...

Anyway I think I'll play all the new games and check them out. By the way, I forgot my name over here was 'Elexxorine' and registered under 'DePaw', there doesn't seem to be a way to change it, but I'd like to keep the consistency so you know it's me. If Alex could change it, I'd be most grateful. Thanks.

Elex - email Alex to change one to the other (or IM him over msn).

Michael - stop taking criticism to heart. You're either a baby or a girl.... Or a baby girl.

[Mod_Idea++] (just not me)

I'm keeping an eye on this topic.

Wow...

I leave for a couple of days and look what happens. The salamander has begun to frolic in the eggnog.

I have an idea but I don't think that everyone will like it.

What if you only allowed games to be put up in textadventures from registered users of Quest.

I mean, think about it. You only have six rooms and thirty objects in the trial version of Quest 4. This makes it only a testing ground to even see if you like using the program.

Of course you can make a one room game, I just made one. But... it far exceeded the table scrap that the trial version gives you to work with as far as items (and even "rooms").

This would keep people from downloading quest for an afternoon and uploading the product of one or two learning sessions. If they are able to make a "masterpiece" game from six rooms and 30 objects than they really should buy the program. If they do not want to do that there is still the IF archive and the IFDB to upload the games to.

If you are using quest, and you have been using quest for longer than thirty days, you should buy it.

So that is my take on it. I think that if somebody threw down the cash for the program they would be less likely to post up some garbage like we are seeing right now. (Though they still might put up some crappy game, the steep price of Quest almost would give them the right to one or two.)

Anyway, what do ya'll (Texas Dialect) think of that.

"The salamander has begun to frolic in the eggnog."

I assume you mean things are going to get messy, perhaps? Anyway, you should start to see my reviews coming in pretty soon, as I'm just about to do some on the recent game additions. I'll do the first couple of pages in thu latest additions then I'll be reviewing the un-reviewed games, followed by those with very high ratings but few raters, and those with not-so-good descriptions.

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007bond
I never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with davidw.
Seriously, whoever you are, Michael the Gamer, sod off.
You're a complete idiot and your input is not welcome here.

*awaits personal attacks on me*

YOU DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU STUPID MAINIAC

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davidw
Mummy, heee-eeeeeeeeeeellllpppppppppp! The toddlers have invaded the forum!

Mu-mmmmmmmyyyyyyyy!!!!!

ANOTHER STUPID TODDLER? GET REAL DAVIDW

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paul_one
Elex - email Alex to change one to the other (or IM him over msn).

Michael - stop taking criticism to heart. You're either a baby or a girl.... Or a baby girl.

[Mod_Idea++] (just not me)

I'm keeping an eye on this topic.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE A BABY AND YOU ARE ONE!
WHY?
YOU HAVENT SEEN A GIRL CALLED MICHAEL?
AND HOW CAN A BABY KNOW HOW TO POST A COMMENT RIGHT NOW?
THINK HARDER!
EDIT: I THOUGHT YOU WERE A MODERATOR NOT A GUY WHO CALLS EVERYONE A BABY

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TO STEVE THE GAMING GUY
IF YOU DONT LIKE A COMMENT IN TEXTADVENTURES.CO.UK LIKE SOME EXAMPLES WHY DO YOU HAVE TO COMMENT BACK LIKE YOUR A BOSS OR SOMETHING?

ITS LIKE I WAS VOTING FOR A GUY THAT YOU DONT LIKE YOU MAKE A FUSS ABOUT IT

If you want to know how this stupid topic was made look at this

I was typing this about a month ago in ESCAPE!-boring edition

Review by Michael the gamer
6 Oct 2007

Man this Game is funny!
You can even type a walk through in about 5 seconds

*Walk through*
Go Right and then out

Rating: 3 stars

I was honest beacuse It made me laugh because it was a bit stupid for just 3 rooms
But 6 days ago Steve Lingle had no right to argue my review

He put this

Comment by Steve Lingle
19 Nov 2007

"You can even type a walkthrou in about 5 secounds

*Walkthrou*
Go Right and then out"

... then why did you grace this with a 3 star rating? (...and your own misspellings)

Get my point?

I can tell you that wasn't nice

Then he made this topic

He was rude and mean

One day someday he will do this to you

I got more Steve Lingle put this in Escape 2

Comment by Steve Lingle
19 Nov 2007

I'm not going to rate this. If I did, it would be a one or a negative number. Please make an actual game before posting on here. This file seems to be no more than a practice file to see if commands can be used.
"Its pie" when you look at the pie.
According to the walkthrough, you have to "pull the book" but the commands "pull the book", "pull book", "pull", "pull the book that says lever" and "pull book that says lever" do not work.
By the way, you must type "book that says lever" when you want to do something with it... look, x, take, speak to.
I played it longer than it took to create it, I'm sure.... which wasn't long, I assure you.

And I answered it with this

I know it wasn't good but why the negative feelings?

I know your not scared because your not attacked yet

Imagine
You made a scrappy game and Steve Lingle answers it like this:
"Man this is the worst game Ive ever seen"
or something simler

Now this crap that Ive seen

Mummy, heee-eeeeeeeeeeellllpppppppppp! The toddlers have invaded the forum!

Mu-mmmmmmmyyyyyyyy!!!!!

I never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with davidw.
Seriously, whoever you are, Michael the Gamer, sod off.
You're a complete idiot and your input is not welcome here.

*awaits personal attacks on me*

Caps lock does not make your case any strong, if anything it makes it weaker, as it looks like you can't even see you've left it on...

A moderator would be a good idea in case people post spam, vulgar comments or rate their own games under another name, etc.

Steve has a very good reputation here as some-one who comments well, and has made some good games. I've thought about making other game into text versions too, you really need to know the inter working of some games and know the plot, etc inside out to do so, and is a kind of tribute to the game...

By the way, now that DavidW hates you, he will never stop. He has strong opinions and high standards.

Michael, you also spelt 'attention' wrong, it's not 'attencion'.

Also I wonder why Dther99 hasn't posted at all on the forums? I'm sure the forum dis-allows multiple users with the same email address...

Anyway I think I'll play all the new games and check them out. By the way, I forgot my name over here was 'Elexxorine' and registered under 'DePaw', there doesn't seem to be a way to change it, but I'd like to keep the consistency so you know it's me. If Alex could change it, I'd be most grateful. Thanks.

Elex - email Alex to change one to the other (or IM him over msn).

Michael - stop taking criticism to heart. You're either a baby or a girl.... Or a baby girl.

[Mod_Idea++] (just not me)

I'm keeping an eye on this topic.

This is what happened to me this might happen to you some day......

I think this will be my last post with no cap locks on for all the letters until people respect me

before then

To Steve Lingle
I got some proof that I'm being honest
Theres what your gonna see is what you never seen before because your just an idiot

Review of Assassin
6 Oct 2007

The the best Game I ever Seen!
this game has a lot of description
And I liked the ending

Well Done Mocha Man and Eager Elmer!

Rating: 5 stars

Review of Lodus
6 Oct 2007

I liked this game.
I Liked the effects like the baackground
Its not like a action game its more like a relaxing game

Rating: 5 stars

Review of Dim
13 Oct 2007

I liked this game its funny!
this part was my favioite: (use hammer at ceiling in crate room)

You hit the ceiling hard, and candy comes out. I love pinatas! Ok just kidding... Really it does nothing.

Rating: 5 stars

Wow... thanks for making my point.

Dr.Froth
Wow...

I leave for a couple of days and look what happens. The salamander has begun to frolic in the eggnog.

Me too
(expect the underlined parts)

Dr.Froth wrote:I have an idea but I don't think that everyone will like it.

What if you only allowed games to be put up in textadventures from registered users of Quest.

I mean, think about it. You only have six rooms and thirty objects in the trial version of Quest 4. This makes it only a testing ground to even see if you like using the program.

Of course you can make a one room game, I just made one. But... it far exceeded the table scrap that the trial version gives you to work with as far as items (and even "rooms").

This would keep people from downloading quest for an afternoon and uploading the product of one or two learning sessions. If they are able to make a "masterpiece" game from six rooms and 30 objects than they really should buy the program. If they do not want to do that there is still the IF archive and the IFDB to upload the games to.

If you are using quest, and you have been using quest for longer than thirty days, you should buy it.

So that is my take on it. I think that if somebody threw down the cash for the program they would be less likely to post up some garbage like we are seeing right now. (Though they still might put up some crappy game, the steep price of Quest almost would give them the right to one or two.)

Anyway, what do ya'll (Texas Dialect) think of that.

Too be honest, I dont like the idea because not everyone ownes Quest Pro.
About 3% maybe more or less have Quest Pro and post games they done in textadventures.co.uk
And you will have about 10 games instead of over 100

Some best games aka 10 best games e.g. Assassin used .asl files using Quest version 3.12

steve the gaming guy wrote:Wow... thanks for making my point.

What kind of Point?
Im Trying to make a point that you are wrong

I do not really want to get into an argument here but I honestly I would rather have 10 games that were well done (or at least cared about), than 100 games of crap so bad that I would rather take a belt sander to my genitals than play any of them.

Dr.Froth wrote:I do not really want to get into an argument here but I honestly I would rather have 10 games that were well done (or at least cared about), than 100 games of crap so bad that I would rather take a belt sander to my genitals than play any of them.

To Dr.Froth
If you didn't see this on the other post I guess I will tell you know.
Well there's some best games that had used .asl instead of .cas
1.Like Pain Labyrinth by Tai
He or she had Quest Pro (when playing PL type About) but saved it has .asl
2.Quest versions before 4.0 has unlimited rooms or objects but had a 30 day trial

Dr.Froth I like you attitude

Michael the Gamer, I'd respond to you with the vitriol you deserve, but

a) You're about five years old and I've never fancied beating up small children.

b) Your games are crap. And I don't just mean crap in a slightly crap sort of way but crap in an humungously crap sort of way. They're so crap the dictionary needs rewriting to include a more venomous definition for crap. If they were any more crap, you'd probably have died from their sheer crapness during the writing period (althought as that was probably only 15-20 minutes, you might well have survived). In short: they're crap. If you don't see that... well, you're probably crap, too. So your opinion on what constitutes a good game is neither here nor there. You're crap.

c) You're crap.

d) As stated above, you're only five years old and so your opinions don't matter.

e) You're crap.

f) Your games are crap.

g) You're crap.

Get the point? I can try to make it a little clearer if you like - you are, after all, very young (not to mention crap) and so words of more than one syllable, or those not in caps, surely confuse you - but you're not welcome here, your games aren't welcome here and, above all, all those caps are hurting my eyes.



PS - you're crap.

davidw wrote:Michael the Gamer, I'd respond to you with the vitriol you deserve, but

a) You're about five years old and I've never fancied beating up small children.

b) Your games are crap. And I don't just mean crap in a slightly crap sort of way but crap in an humungously crap sort of way. They're so crap the dictionary needs rewriting to include a more venomous definition for crap. If they were any more crap, you'd probably have died from their sheer crapness during the writing period (althought as that was probably only 15-20 minutes, you might well have survived). In short: they're crap. If you don't see that... well, you're probably crap, too. So your opinion on what constitutes a good game is neither here nor there. You're crap.

c) You're crap.

d) As stated above, you're only five years old and so your opinions don't matter.

e) You're crap.

f) Your games are crap.

g) You're crap.

Get the point? I can try to make it a little clearer if you like - you are, after all, very young (not to mention crap) and so words of more than one syllable, or those not in caps, surely confuse you - but you're not welcome here, your games aren't welcome here and, above all, all those caps are hurting my eyes.



PS - you're crap.

duh? Cant you see I have made any games that I've posted on textadventures.co.uk? You must have bad eye site? For your fact I've posted 12 comments and no games

If you still can't understand this continue reading

I HAVE POSTED NO GAMES
I HAVE POSTED NO GAMES
I HAVE POSTED NO GAMES
I HAVE POSTED NO GAMES
I HAVE POSTED NO GAMES

howws that?

PS YOU ARE IN A VERY CRAPPY WORLD! LOL

BTW, would you like to borrow my avatar? I think it suits you better.

I've always wondered why you used that avatar davidw.

Oh, and apparently I'm a maniac now
I really don't see how I fit that profile.


Dr. Froth: your proposal is a good idea, but what about the people who manually script their games and don't use QDK?

Does the trial version not have the same limitations when created in ASL?

That is odd, I did not know. That seems like a designer flaw for Alex to me. Why favor people who code from scratch over "common-folk" like myself who cannot.

If I learn to hand code can I get a refund and just use the trial-version?

How strange.

But again the point remains:
If you have been using this program for more than a month, than you obviously like it so you really should buy it.

As far as I know the free version of quest doesn't have limits on the game you can make. The server has a limit on users though. I'm using the free version to make HavenHold, which is about 160kb at the moment.

Can people please stop having a fight? It just further proves your immaturity by lowering yourself to the others levels...

If you don't want to be treated like a baby, don't act like one. Take the criticism, and make a better game, sure people are mean to others but that's how the world is. Either cry in the corner or strive to make yourself better, it is not what happens to you that makes you who you are but how you react to it!

She has a point...and hey... you could make a better game right now and submit to the Yuletide Froth: The Christmas Quest Comp.

Might get $50.

And a little Quest respect if the game does not suck.

There is still plenty of time.

I don't call everyone a baby - just you Michael.

Your English is poor, your argument is that your feelings have been hurt, and you're flaming for the hell of it.
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