The forum has lost it's touch. I don't come on here very often anymore, but every time I come back DavidW is being a dick towards somebody, threads are being locked all the time, and some girl with an avatar which obviously isn't of her seems to be on some kind of power-trip.

I've been floating around since 2002. But, goodbye AxeUK.

The following predictions will happen

DavidW will post something offensive
Tron will post something
Anybody will post something offensive/retarded
The topic will get locked.

I'll never find out

*waiting for Davidw to post something*

I'm not on a power trip

And I never said that was me

Internet resignation speeches really make me cry.

I'm in floods here, I can't control myself

Is he resigning?

Is this one of daivdw's buddies?

Did david resign?

Zelimos is leaving. Nobody else is going anywhere.

Pity cause Zelimos seemed alright.

The Unknown wrote:Is this one of daivdw's buddies?

If you by "buddie" you mean "enemy",
and by "one" you mean "THE one",
and by "davidw" you mean "any intelligent being"....
Then yes.

Tr0n wrote:

"The Unknown"

Is this one of daivdw's buddies?

If you by "buddie" you mean "enemy",
and by "one" you mean "THE one",
and by "davidw" you mean "any intelligent being"....
Then yes.

so nobody likes the z-dood?

Not usually..
He's grown up a bit from where he first started off, I'll give him that.
But he's still not all with it... I know a couple of people like that - they really annoy me.

Tr0n wrote:

"The Unknown"

Is this one of daivdw's buddies?

If you by "buddie" you mean "enemy",
and by "one" you mean "THE one",
and by "davidw" you mean "any intelligent being"....
Then yes.

Well if he's an enemy of davidw, then he's a friend of mine. That's for sure. davidw has been sending some very hurtful and mean PMs to me. I'll leave it at that.

SO zelimos is going.... Why?

That's quite sad, really. Oh well, I don't know him, but I'll say goodbye.

Zelimos, if you check in and I hope you do, I want you to know that I enjoyed reading your posts and I have respect for your abilities. I said so in the thread where you posted some of your music which was quite well done. I for one hope that you return. Some people have a hard time dealing with directness but you and I both know that's how it is.

Davidw has been bullying you for a while. He has bullied me and many others with his petty potshots. A lot of people were sick of it and it appears that he has not been around for nearly half a month. Why not come back to the forums and let's get things going again around here.

All the best,
O.V.

Tr0n wrote:Not usually..
He's grown up a bit from where he first started off, I'll give him that.
But he's still not all with it... I know a couple of people like that - they really annoy me.

ok, and i no what you mean.

good by to whoever you are thats leaving!

Zelimos is cool. He's misunderstood. If he weren't and he didn't realise it he would have left a long time ago.

zelimos if u come back, i will pm you my racy pictures. i am a gurl btw

im a girl too but i dont go around saying so.

I am neither missunderstood, nor imature. Consider the differences of real life and internet life.

I have responsibilities in real life, everybody does. That's why people are different in person.

[email protected] - My MSN, should you wish to contact me about game development, music composing, or just general chat.

Don't go off what DavidW and Tron say, or provoke myself to say.

Have you come back?

Excellent?

Welcome back

Is he now taking random sentances from the internet and posting them like Stu?
O Vaughan.. I didn't quite understand that triple negative in your second sentance..
You're saying if he was understood - but didn't realise it, he would have left? But he understood it and stayed?
Or he WAS misunderstood, but didn't realise it - and stayed?

Perhaps cool - if he wasn't cool, and didn't know it, then he would have gone - but he knew it and stayed?
Or he was cool - and didn't know it, so he stayed?

Some people have a hard time dealing with directness but you and I both know that's how it is.

DavidW is much like that.. He may have caught me on a couple of occasions - I really can't remember.. But I always thought of him more like the kid in the playground which uses wit to prod the idiots/big-mouths.

Tr0n wrote:Is he now taking random sentances from the internet and posting them like Stu?
O Vaughan.. I didn't quite understand that triple negative in your second sentance..
You're saying if he was understood - but didn't realise it, he would have left? But he understood it and stayed?
Or he WAS misunderstood, but didn't realise it - and stayed?

Perhaps cool - if he wasn't cool, and didn't know it, then he would have gone - but he knew it and stayed?
Or he was cool - and didn't know it, so he stayed?

Some people have a hard time dealing with directness but you and I both know that's how it is.

DavidW is much like that.. He may have caught me on a couple of occasions - I really can't remember.. But I always thought of him more like the kid in the playground which uses wit to prod the idiots/big-mouths.

This all is confusing me even more!

I don't understand.

Yeah, I'm kinda lost in a way too CC....

But it wouldn't be the first time, eh?

Yeah Unknonw!

it usually doesnt matter becuz its stoopid stuff.

but i alwayz try to understand ppls feelings and to be sooooo good at everything i do. but this seems like tr0n is being mean?

i think its harder to understand when you cant see ppls faces like IRL.

I find that as well CC.. But all in all this place has alot of good members. I kinda like that zelimos dude. he's got a certian atmosphere (as Ryori would say)
Tron is a good guy CC. I'm sure he's just joking. It's sometimes hard to know if someone is joking eh? I've gotten to know a bit more about his posting style... he's a good guy, trust me.

oh tr0ns always been nice to me and he so silly in a smart goofy kind of way and he makes me laff!

know what? tr0ns probably going to be able to see this! ha! it is good that we are not saying bad things about him!


p.s. to my last post before this one: i hardly knew that z-d00d but he was never mean to me and it seems hes not rude to anyone else either.

Just for other people's knowledge I did NOT edit any post above!
except for all of them..
LOL

So, What attitute was I in when I wrote that..... None really.
Jokes usually have a smiley alongside.
I was just listing out the possibilities from the sentance that he (O Vaughan) wrote above;

Zelimos is cool. He's misunderstood. If he weren't and he didn't realise it he would have left a long time ago.

ClC, I read an interesting news article about the internet breaking down barriers (blah-blah-blah) and it get's into where fights etc become more easy because there's less of a face-to-face situation..
Going back to what Zelimos said, you shouldn't act differently from real life to internet life. If you do, you're just pretending to be someone you're not.

Now g'wan (slang-slurred "go-on")... say more kind stuff about me ...
What was the point of this thread again?

I stand by what I said, Tr0n in spite of the unsolicited slagging you've given me about it. if you can't understand it, then it's not my problem. I happen to think Zelimos is pretty cool. Yeah, he is direct and whatnot but to compare him to that twat davidw is ludicrous. davidw does nothing but PICK ON PEOPLE. He follows their posts and takes potshots at them ad-nauseum. He's a bully.

BTW, I saw what you posted about puzzles and I didn't think a lot of it at first but considering the innuendos used by yourself in this thread i am inclined to believe that you have insulted me. Shame, really. I thought things were cool between you and I. I suppose this has something to do with the posts I have made about davidw. You don't think I'm the only one who sees this in him, do you? The guy might contribute a thing or 2 but he's surely run off a lot of people during his reign of terror... Well, he is not going to run me off.

Another post for our post deleting mod, aka Arbutus, to delete when he gets a moment:

davidw does nothing but PICK ON PEOPLE. He follows their posts and takes potshots at them ad-nauseum. He's a bully.

You're right about the nauseum bit, Zelim- Sorry, O_Vaughan. (Secret's safe with me, okay?) I've never come across anybody quite as nauseous as you. I love this bit:

Yeah, he is direct and whatnot but to compare him to that twat davidw is ludicrous

followed by

davidw does nothing but PICK ON PEOPLE

O_Zelimos - and what, pray tell, do you do aside from PICK ON PEOPLE? Ha, you're classic.

I found this quite, as david put it, nauseoating.

O_VAUGHAN wrote:I stand by what I said, Tr0n in spite of the unsolicited slagging you've given me about it. if you can't understand it, then it's not my problem. I happen to think Zelimos is pretty cool. Yeah, he is direct and whatnot but to compare him to that twat davidw is ludicrous. davidw does nothing but PICK ON PEOPLE. He follows their posts and takes potshots at them ad-nauseum. He's a bully.

Where am I "slagging you off"?
I asked you a question, and then listed out the possibilities from the sentance you made above.. If this is what you call 'slagging off' then I'm suprised you can step outside your front door incase the mailman aggressivly attacks you with a "hello".

I've never thought of Zelimos as "direct". Direct is usually 'to the point without "buffers"'... Like this post.
I don't think I compared them either... Did I?

"O_VAUGHAN"]BTW, I saw what you posted about puzzles and I didn't think a lot of it at first but considering the innuendos used by yourself in this thread i am inclined to believe that you have insulted me. Shame, really. I thought things were cool between you and I. I suppose this has something to do with the posts I have made about davidw. You don't think I'm the only one who sees this in him, do you? The guy might contribute a thing or 2 but he's surely run off a lot of people during his reign of terror... Well, he is not going to run me off.

Innuendos?
As far as I remember I made a quote about not liking puzzles, except one - which was like a hexagon shaped puzzle.. 8-piece or something..
Actually, I'll just check..
Yup, I did the above, said I'd prefer to cut out shapes in paper rather than spend money on a picture puzzle, and I was rubbish at chess.
Then in this one I ask you a quite simple question, and you're acting as if I've insulted your mother..

I again, hope no-one adds any feeling into this post. If I was angry I'd USE CAPITALS OR BOLD... But I'm not.

Now I was going to add alot more to this - but thinking better, I'd prefer this taken out of the main window and into PM's, as it's not worth turning this into a peeing contest.

I'm sure if you like Zelimos that much, you can go join his forums (I'm sure there are many), and listen to his radio and bleat away...

... The second sentance in my last post was meant to be small... But I guess it didn't work.
And the first post of "Is he now taking random sentances from the internet and posting them like Stu?" was directed at Zel, who posted a random sentance which was weird...
Just to clear up some stuff..

And now David, glad to see you didn't greab your bags and leave the station.

Quite risky with the Zelimos accusation there.. And the whole calling him nautious...
Walking on the wild side there .

shouldnt we be spending our time on more important things...like GAMES! hahahahahaha.

seriouosly, look at all the valuable game time wasted by picking on each other. good golly miss molly (that might be a song to, but i never heard it sung, just spoken like this).

peace,

christy

It would be nice to have a discussion or two about games, but as Quest games seem to be few and far between (nothing this year so far), it's hard finding anything to talk about.

thats true davidw. plus i dont know all that much about it and wanted to learn more but they seem too hard. most ppl here seem nice tho and its sooooo cool that you are in another country!

i just dont see why to have such long messages going on and on.

1 more of my predictions is yet to come true.

it's all a game

maybee you are a psychic?!

Psychotic maybe.

I have sent Tr0n an email apologising for my behaviour in this thread. He has not as of yet replied to it so I am assuming that I am not taken seriously in this place. It is a shame, really because I have a lot to contribute but it is hard to do so while being berated constatntly and then when I realize that I have gone a bit overboard and apologise, it is not even remotely acknowledged.

And davidw, I am purposely not responding to your barbs any more because they are, for the most part, baseless and in my opinion benign attempts to malign my and others characters. Even though you have a lot of street cred in this corner of the gaming world, you are an odious reptile who is to be avoided at all costs.

Sorry - I really haven't accessed the computer much (or indeed; at all) this weekend.

I've been able to read some stuff last night/today, and yes, I am taking it seriously.

I just haven't thought up what I'll type out yet..
It'll come a little later on after work.

O_Zelimos, nice to see you're not responding to me in this thread at the same time as calling me an odious reptile.

Quite shocking that you're not taken seriously, by the way. I wonder what the possible reason for that could be?

Is Zelimos back? I'm confused, I thought he gave a leaving speech.

I'm fairly sure I've saved it somewhere. I read it to disadvantaged children to cheer them up.

I read Davidw's posts to recovering alcholics, it helps them release the pain of their lives.

headspace wrote:Is Zelimos back? I'm confused, I thought he gave a leaving speech.

Yes, he's back. Yes he gave a farewell speech. Yes, davidw has continued to accuse me of being him and he of being me. davidw is wrong. He is full of self-importance and hubris. Just read some of this egomainac's posts.

And O_Vaughan is doing an excellent job of fitting in the forum and 'contributing'.

Hello everyone.

I see that my absence has not stopped people from making cutting remarks about me. I assume the original post about a girl on a "power trip" was supposed to mean me, right?

I think I've been fair in the face of obvious pointless arguing on the forum, and I have consulted with other more experienced mods wherever possible about the problems that I've seen. I've even asked the advice of a man in my office who has been on forums for a lot longer than me in order to make sure that I haven't made any silly mistakes.

Looking at the state of things at the moment, someone on a "power trip" might not be such a bad thing...

I backup Lucy's statement.
Well, both statements really..

Lucy wrote:Hello everyone.

I see that my absence has not stopped people from making cutting remarks about me. I assume the original post about a girl on a "power trip" was supposed to mean me, right?

I think I've been fair in the face of obvious pointless arguing on the forum, and I have consulted with other more experienced mods wherever possible about the problems that I've seen. I've even asked the advice of a man in my office who has been on forums for a lot longer than me in order to make sure that I haven't made any silly mistakes.

Looking at the state of things at the moment, someone on a "power trip" might not be such a bad thing...

Lucy I appreciate your ethusiasm... although I feel (not to start a flame war or what not) that certian MODs here (a few the other MODs in particular) don't really care about what goes on. It's quite obvious isn't it? I mean you one particular individual that can post what ever he feels and generally lambast all the members here without anyone stoping him. That individual has built quite a POWer base here with many sycophants. On the other hand a n00bie like that stu makes one to many posts and is banned outright. It seems rather lopsided IMO.

It seems that the role of MODship which should be as a fair and impartial person is not the case here. It's more of (and again not to start a flame war or what not) one person filled with self importance and his minions running amoke across the board on a quest for male dominancy. The rest are too lazy or just plainly don't care enough to do anything.

I'm not trying to piss off anyone off with this post. Just stating the facts as I see them and offering an opinion.... I'm just trying to save you some headaches lucy....You're just going to be beating your head against the wall here... no one here gives a d@#n.

The Buck

Thank you for your support, but please leave it to the moderation staff to deal with.

OK, will do.

damn lucy you look juicy. Is dat yo pict fo real?

juicy lucy. hahahahaha that rhimes!

Didn't read all of your post lucy, couldn't really be bothered. you're correct about the first part though.

Haha! DavidW is calling me O_Zelimos. Are you trying to accuse me of being O_VAUGHAN!? That's awesome.

I gave my leaving speech, doesn't mean I have to stop posting.

"OMFG ZELIMOS SED HE WOZ LEAVINGZ AND HE HASUNT OMFG H4x0r IMA TELL ALIX YOU H4X!!!!"

Go cry DavidW, go cry...

If you were funnier, Zelimos, you'd be a joke. As it is, you're just pathetic.

davidw wrote:If you were funnier, Zelimos, you'd be a joke. As it is, you're just pathetic.

coming from you that has to be a compliment.

Zelimos wrote:Didn't read all of your post lucy, couldn't really be bothered. you're correct about the first part though.

Good to know you're dealing with a fell deck there :S .

Zelimos wrote:Haha! DavidW is calling me O_Zelimos. Are you trying to accuse me of being O_VAUGHAN!? That's awesome.

Any reason?

Zelimos wrote:I gave my leaving speech, doesn't mean I have to stop posting.

No, of course not. It just means you're an idiot.

Zelimos wrote:"OMFG ZELIMOS SED HE WOZ LEAVINGZ AND HE HASUNT OMFG H4x0r IMA TELL ALIX YOU H4X!!!!"

Go cry DavidW, go cry...

And what's "H4x1n9" got to do with you continuing to post here?

Zelimos wrote: wrote:
I gave my leaving speech, doesn't mean I have to stop posting.

tr0n wrote:
No, of course not. It just means you're an idiot.

Kinda hard on zelimos aren't ya?

lol. It's all good fun.

Zelimos wrote:lol. It's all good fun.

OK welcome back zelimos. I hear you are not a big fan of davidw.

Nonsense, he's my hero, and role model.

Zelimos wrote:Nonsense, he's my hero, and role model.

Really?.... then you are doomed my friend. He is a complete moron.

lol.

I've been meaning to do something for a while now actually. Perhaps you can help me.

Get my MSN from the button below.

It's all fun when I make myself look like a prat for not closing off quotes .

And I am simply pointing out an opinion that him ignoring his own statement about leaving, made him look silly.

I can't even remember what he wrote first off.

Zelimos wrote:lol.

I've been meaning to do something for a while now actually. Perhaps you can help me.

Get my MSN from the button below.

dont use msn... PM me.

Tr0n wrote:It's all fun when I make myself look like a prat for not closing off quotes .

And I am simply pointing out an opinion that him ignoring his own statement about leaving, made him look silly.

I can't even remember what he wrote first off.

When it bothers me that I sometimes look silly, I'll post a thread saying so.

Now this is interesting. The two biggest idiots on the forum are friends with each other. Stick 'em both together and you might just have an IQ in double figures.

davidw wrote:Now this is interesting. The two biggest idiots on the forum are friends with each other. Stick 'em both together and you might just have an IQ in double figures.

Nobody said I was friends with anybody. Just because we're against your failed attempt to make anybody bothered with your useless, pointless, persistant, and almost slightly insultive remarks, which usually just prove to be annoying and irritating like a small rash, or a buzzing fly, doesn't mean anybody is starting a secret club to kill you.

Sorry DavidW, but you're not even close to being the centre of attention.

Really? You and your resident trollmates certainly pay enough attention to me. Unknown can't post a message on the forum without mentioning me at some point.

You can talk. While I didn't post for ages, I came back and noticed you posting my name somewhere in a few threads, which is why I told you that you have an obsession.

This forum needs a special "flame war" section where you boys can fight it out without spoiling it for everyone else.

But I was so ecstatic over your leaving (and let's face it, I'm not the only one) that I just felt the need to mention it a few times. Considering the way you act, you can hardly blame me, can you?

But you didn't leave. Sigh. Like a bad penny, you keep on showing up time and again. Will we ever be rid of you?

davidw wrote:But I was so ecstatic over your leaving (and let's face it, I'm not the only one) that I just felt the need to mention it a few times. Considering the way you act, you can hardly blame me, can you?

But you didn't leave. Sigh. Like a bad penny, you keep on showing up time and again. Will we ever be rid of you?

i've been here much longer than you. I'll leave and return as and when I please.

Lucy, I've been requesting this for a while now. Still, nothing has been done about it.

It would certainly make it easier to know who wants to chat and who just wants to fight all the time.

I think Alex is the only one who can make it happen.

davidw wrote:Really? You and your resident trollmates certainly pay enough attention to me. Unknown can't post a message on the forum without mentioning me at some point.

how ridiculous. I can't even log in without you jumping on me. I get such wonderfully colorful PMs from you. I almost got the feeling you have a crush on me. Let me brief you in the clear. I'm the Buck, I have a little doe. You do not figure into the equasion. that is all

click

The Buck

Lucy wrote:It would certainly make it easier to know who wants to chat and who just wants to fight all the time.

I think Alex is the only one who can make it happen.

Definately.

Although, I've been moderating forums for years now, it seems that forums without a chat section are less likely to become corrupt by useless fights etc. If there isn't a reason given to members to chat about nothing other than the software (Or purpose of the site), then they'll usually keep on topic.

It's easier to moderate a community without a chat section, but if there's a chat section, you usually spend more time moderating that, and miss out important things that actually need to be moderated in the other forums.

In this case, moderators usually ignore chat forums, and let it all fire out, which makes the community look bad, and gives people reason to argue in other forums.

wooooow, it's all a big mess!

There are pleanty of chat sites and forums for general chat and flaming, this forum doesn't need one. If it lacked a chat forum, people would surely (or atleast mostly) stay on topic, providing the moderators kept strict rules on the other forums.

Agreed Zelimos, although I like the fact that there's a chat area so that people can get to know each other outside of gaming issues.

If there was a "chat" area AND a "flaming" area, people would know that their flames have to be kept to one place, and anything flamey in the chat bit would be moved or deleted.

It might also be a good idea to make it so that certain people only had access to the flame area and not the chat. Davidw seems to thrive on insulting people, which would be okay in a flame area, but since he doesn't contribute anything else to the chat area, he should probably be kept out of it.

that sounds more than reasonable lucy. davidw could set up his little troll stand there to pick on the new unsusupecting newbies.

It would be quite apt to set him up in a little troll cave where people could go and throw scraps for him to get excited about. At the moment he treats the whole forum as though he owns it.

Lucy wrote:Agreed Zelimos, although I like the fact that there's a chat area so that people can get to know each other outside of gaming issues.

If there was a "chat" area AND a "flaming" area, people would know that their flames have to be kept to one place, and anything flamey in the chat bit would be moved or deleted.

It might also be a good idea to make it so that certain people only had access to the flame area and not the chat. Davidw seems to thrive on insulting people, which would be okay in a flame area, but since he doesn't contribute anything else to the chat area, he should probably be kept out of it.

True, although I'm not sure phpBB supports this by default, but i'm sure there's a modification somewhere.

You should talk to Alex, being a moderator yourself the idea would probably be approved.

And again we have it with the "Davidw doesn't contribute anything to the chat area" from our resident mod who doesn't really seem to have a clue what's going on. Do yourself a favour. Have a look at the recent forum in the chat area and see how many threads I've started having a go at someone, then take a look at the ones by Unknown. For some reason, you seem to have this idea that I come here and do nothing but insult him, and seem oblivious to the fact that that's just what he does. Every comment I've made that could be construed as an insult to him is in reply to one he made towards me, yet you never seem to notice this. How many more forum members has he got to insult before you're going to finally stop sticking up for him?

Or, better still, how many more mistakes as a mod are you going to make before you lose your mod abilities? You certainly don't have a clue what you're doing.

Lucy wrote:It would be quite apt to set him up in a little troll cave where people could go and throw scraps for him to get excited about. At the moment he treats the whole forum as though he owns it.

You say that and you consider yourself a mod?

davidw wrote:And again we have it with the "Davidw doesn't contribute anything to the chat area" from our resident mod who doesn't really seem to have a clue what's going on. Do yourself a favour. Have a look at the recent forum in the chat area and see how many threads I've started having a go at someone, then take a look at the ones by Unknown. For some reason, you seem to have this idea that I come here and do nothing but insult him, and seem oblivious to the fact that that's just what he does. Every comment I've made that could be construed as an insult to him is in reply to one he made towards me, yet you never seem to notice this. How many more forum members has he got to insult before you're going to finally stop sticking up for him?

Or, better still, how many more mistakes as a mod are you going to make before you lose your mod abilities? You certainly don't have a clue what you're doing.

drivel drivel.. I didnt' attack you and left you alone until you attacked me yesterday. I wont take it laying down. [snip] I said ok. you want to attack me I'll attack back

You drew first blood..

The Buck

Lucy wrote: wrote:
It would be quite apt to set him up in a little troll cave where people could go and throw scraps for him to get excited about. At the moment he treats the whole forum as though he owns it.

the idiot davidw wrote:
You say that and you consider yourself a mod?

funny you never said anything when tr0n called zelimos an idiot. why is that?

You're forgetting to mention that every post I make, you reply in attempt to provoke me to reply with something mean towards you.

You might not "insult" people first, but you sure do provoke people to come down to your level of patheticness. I agree with Lucy completely, and believe me I'm no friends with anybody on here.

You try to make out that you're very mature and everybody else are children trying to get attention. If this was the case, you'd stfu and ignore the chat forum completely.

Unfortunately, this is barely the case as you continue to post, reply, and provoke.

True story.

David, again you seem to be a little unaware of what you are actually saying. You seem to have your own proprietary set of rules for other people, yet you break them yourself with alarming regularity.

You are asking me to accept that The Unknown is worse than you in terms of pointless insults, but in the same breath you have started up again about my fitness to be a moderator on this forum!

As for my comments about you, take those as my opinion rather than my moderation policy. Just because I am a mod does not mean that I am not allowed to have an opinion of you or anything else.

From my standpoint, I have to say that Davidw has sat here for quite some time thinking that this place was ripe with supporters for his tyrannic rampage that has lasted for God knows how long. It looks like the tables are turning now, however.

I know, Tr0n, you have mentioned that Zelimos is the forum scratching post and all that. He doesn't seem to mind so much but Davidw, like many egomaniacal hatemongers doesn't know where the line is. He crosses it constantly with random barbs and petty innuendo. His payoff is what he perceives as a win through intimidation of another person.

I liken this to having a huge steaming pile of crap in the hall that everyone has simply stepped around for ages. One day, someone comes along and says "hey, there is a steaming pile of crap on the floor. we need to clean it up". Then action is taken and the crap gets cleaned up and then it's a better place overall for that having happened.

Funnily enough, I see a steaming pile of crap myself. It's got a name tag on which, if I look at it closely enough, appears to read O_V***H*N.



Or maybe it's just the sheer crap you spout sometimes. "Tyrannic rampage". You what...?

I'd love to sit you down in front of a shrink one day and see what he made of you. It might be quite enlightening.

Lucy wrote:This forum needs a special "flame war" section where you boys can fight it out without spoiling it for everyone else.

Lucy, Unknown, Zelimos vs. davidw.... at least that's what I'm seeing.
It's good to see everyone becoming fast friends.

steve the gaming guy wrote:

"Lucy"

This forum needs a special "flame war" section where you boys can fight it out without spoiling it for everyone else.

Lucy, Unknown, Zelimos vs. davidw.... at least that's what I'm seeing.
It's good to see everyone becoming fast friends.

Steve if you look back I tried to be friends with davidw, or the bare minimum not in a hostile posting situation. He is the one that's attacked me. I have no bad feelings towards anyone else. I've noticed that Tr0n is definately a fan of davidw and has proven time again that he is. I offer no ill will towards that fact. I just realize that he is a bit, for a lack of better words "heavy handed" whilst MODerating my posts. I can accept it. no qualms. I like tr0n... reguardless of the fact.

Steve I have no problems with you. How's your games coming along? I got a humdinger in the works. It's gonna be a great game.

The Buck

You like Tron, Unknown? Is that the same Tron you called a sycophant, had in your Hate List and accused of being one of my minions?

davidw wrote:I'd love to sit you down in front of a shrink one day and see what he made of you. It might be quite enlightening.

I'll bet you would. You should think about seeing a Psychiatrist yourself, you pedantic windbag. Perhaps then you could see once and for all what everyone else does which is the swollen festering puss-oozing boil that is your awe-inspiring ego and bloated sense of self-importance. It has actually filled this place to such a degree that none can escape it. Almost every thread started in this forum instantly fills with the gas of one of your hideous farts in the form of a post. I liken your opressive presence to a scorched-earth campaign set out by an unknown commander to put down those who dare to show their presence. I will admit that there are some who find your tyranny amusing, but I do not. I never have.

davidw wrote:You like Tron, Unknown? Is that the same Tron you called a sycophant, had in your Hate List and accused of being one of my minions?

Yes the one and the same. I've come to realize that in fact, tr0n is just a big fan of your's. You are like an idol to him. He has shown loyality to you.
I admire that in a person. I admire tr0ns courage to contiue supporting you even though you are a mean spirited person.

I can't help but wonder if He will shine to me after playing my ultimate game I'm working on now. I'm sure it will change the course of gamedom forever. Perhasp even you will want me to show some of my stylized techniques. After you've eaten sufficient crow I might let you in on them.


The Buck

I've noticed that Tr0n is definately a fan of davidw

I've come to realize that in fact, tr0n is just a big fan of your's.

I admire tr0ns courage to contiue supporting you even though you are a mean spirited person.

As far as I know, I don't 'support' him in any way shape or form.
The only fact I see, if that 3 people are 'ganging up' on another which they don't like.
I could gang up with David, and just continue to have a go at people if I wanted to, but I don't feel that way.
I'm basically standing in the middle, trying to hold off the worst from both sides.

I just realize that he is a bit, for a lack of better words "heavy handed" whilst MODerating my posts

Please, if you have any issue then PM Lucy/Alex/I with the details of why you think it's un-just. I do try my best to explain why I've done the things I do (edit,lock or delete).

I suppose you can post up here any examples you'd like to share, where I block off yours, while letting David loose... And just closing off a topic where he's a last poster (and so get's 'the last laugh') is not 'proof'.

Lucy, Unknown, Zelimos vs. davidw.... at least that's what I'm seeing.

Funny, I'm seeing that too. While everyone else is seeing it as a sudden 'fairness' has come over it somehow.

Tr0n, you have mentioned that Zelimos is the forum scratching post

Yeah, and HOW! ... *sigh*

Just because I am a mod does not mean that I am not allowed to have an opinion of you or anything else.

AHA!
This prooves my point... This is, a point I was going to post - but couldn't explain it properly.
You can't be a totally 'fair' moderator, as you form opinions about certain people. BUT, you can be as fair as possible etc.. And so your opinion doesn't really effect your mod stuff etc.

Hmmm, it's so hard to explain.

Tr0n wrote:
Please, if you have any issue then PM Lucy/Alex/I with the details of why you think it's un-just. I do try my best to explain why I've done the things I do (edit,lock or delete).

I suppose you can post up here any examples you'd like to share, where I block off yours, while letting David loose... And just closing off a topic where he's a last poster (and so get's 'the last laugh') is not 'proof'.

That's the entire point. The fact that he slams me and I dont get any retort. Now with the new policy I have to sit and take it. I can't start a new thread to voice my side.

Tr0n wrote:
You can't be a totally 'fair' moderator, as you form opinions about certain people. BUT, you can be as fair as possible etc.. And so your opinion doesn't really effect your mod stuff etc.

Hmmm, it's so hard to explain.

I guess all we can hope is that you guys do your best. I will except that. Consider this matter settled.

the buck

The fact that he slams me and I dont get any retort.

You just don't get it do you?
You're acting like a set of BABIES!
you don't NEED the last word for someone to hang themselves.

You don't NEED to keep saying "yeah, well you're not at smart as me!"
"yes I am, in fact I'm SMARTER than you!"
"no you're not, you're stupid!"
"well you suck!"
"No I don't! You suck!"
"You suck MORE though.. So THERE."

I have to sit and take it

Who said that?
You want us to remove his posts, and become one-sided, opinionated mod's?
That's just as bad as if we were deleteing your posts when you first arrived - or O_vaughans.
You PM a grievance to Lucy/Alex/I. A discussion would happen of some sort, and a warning will go out. After so many warnings (3 or 5?) within an amount of time, the user would be banned - or something up to Alex.

I can't start a new thread to voice my side.

Voice your side about what? Basically saying what's been said before?
I've said it up above and I'll say it again. Everyone's acting like babies.

O_VAUGHAN wrote:

"davidw"

I'd love to sit you down in front of a shrink one day and see what he made of you. It might be quite enlightening.

I'll bet you would. You should think about seeing a Psychiatrist yourself, you pedantic windbag. Perhaps then you could see once and for all what everyone else does which is the swollen festering puss-oozing boil that is your awe-inspiring ego and bloated sense of self-importance. It has actually filled this place to such a degree that none can escape it. Almost every thread started in this forum instantly fills with the gas of one of your hideous farts in the form of a post. I liken your opressive presence to a scorched-earth campaign set out by an unknown commander to put down those who dare to show their presence. I will admit that there are some who find your tyranny amusing, but I do not. I never have.

There are many here who find you amusing,O_Vaughan. (Although not perhaps in the sense you would like.) I am definitely one of them.

The Unknown wrote:

"davidw"

You like Tron, Unknown? Is that the same Tron you called a sycophant, had in your Hate List and accused of being one of my minions?

Yes the one and the same. I've come to realize that in fact, tr0n is just a big fan of your's. You are like an idol to him. He has shown loyality to you.
I admire that in a person. I admire tr0ns courage to contiue supporting you even though you are a mean spirited person.

I can't help but wonder if He will shine to me after playing my ultimate game I'm working on now. I'm sure it will change the course of gamedom forever. Perhasp even you will want me to show some of my stylized techniques. After you've eaten sufficient crow I might let you in on them.


The Buck

You'll probably see this as a bash - then again, you see everything I say as a bash so nothing new there - but bragging about a game you haven't even written yet after you've shown no indication that you even know how to write a game, is just going to make you look like a fool in the end.

You really think your game is so great? Fine. Take me up on my dare and enter it in this year's IFComp. When the critics from RAIF and RGIF have torn it apart in two dozen ways, slouch back here and I'll take great delight in saying "I told you so". But in the meantime, do everyone a favour and stop bragging about a game that isn't finished and, most likely, never will be.

davidw wrote:
You'll probably see this as a bash - then again, you see everything I say as a bash so nothing new there - but bragging about a game you haven't even written yet after you've shown no indication that you even know how to write a game, is just going to make you look like a fool in the end.

You really think your game is so great? Fine. Take me up on my dare and enter it in this year's IFComp. When the critics from RAIF and RGIF have torn it apart in two dozen ways, slouch back here and I'll take great delight in saying "I told you so". But in the meantime, do everyone a favour and stop bragging about a game that isn't finished and, most likely, never will be.

No I dont see it as a bash. I see it as a challenge. If my game is finished in time I will enter it. If not I will enter it next year. Either way I will submit it... rest assured. It's magnicificant. I've stated this several times. You dont listen to what I say.. you just try to attack and bash my posts.

The Unknown wrote:Steve if you look back I tried to be friends with davidw, or the bare minimum not in a hostile posting situation. He is the one that's attacked me...

I've been reading all along. I'm not denying anything you're saying but here's some advice. As much fun as it is to read these "wars", if you wish to have them stop, just stop. If you say something about someone whether you're speaking to them or not, that person will respond....and then you respond...and then they respond.... (like how Tr0n has said several times) If you don't say something about that person in the first place, there's nothing to respond to. If you do happen to say something and they respond,...and then you DON'T respond....again, there is nothing to respond to. It's almost like magic.

The Unknown wrote:Steve I have no problems with you. How's your games coming along? I got a humdinger in the works. It's gonna be a great game.

Well thanks. My full version of King's Quest V has been done for a few weeks but my beta-tester wanted to pass it along to his programming friend before I post it on here. I don't want to toot my own horn but I'll say this though, if you put a lot of time into a game creating it, your work will definitely show in the end.

I am also working on Get Out of the Really Big House [currently working title]. It's the sequel to my first-ever game on Quest....well first game ever anywhere actually!

I started another game called Bonesaw. It's a comedy/horror. Strange combo but I think it'll be good. If I get cracking, I might be able to submit it in the IF contest. I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it though. We'll see.

That's be interesting to see Steve.
Bonesaw would be quite cool in the IFcomp, I've always thought a game from you would have good dialog/story/descriptions.

If it doesn't make it this year, please wait until next year, as the extra time would work in your favor to add extra functionality/error messages.

wow...thank you.... That means a lot coming from a mad programmer like you!

'Tis OK.
I just thought you'd have a fair amount of 'fullness' to your game, you know?
Like one of those "you're in your attic and you need to get out" kinda story's, which is very full, and very descriptive.

I'm sure you can make it, and you're not a bad programmer yourself IIRC.. You've got most of the qualities.. Perhaps I just see you as an artistic guy or something :S .

steve the gaming guy wrote:
I've been reading all along. I'm not denying anything you're saying but here's some advice. As much fun as it is to read these "wars", if you wish to have them stop, just stop. If you say something about someone whether you're speaking to them or not, that person will respond....and then you respond...and then they respond.... (like how Tr0n has said several times) If you don't say something about that person in the first place, there's nothing to respond to. If you do happen to say something and they respond,...and then you DON'T respond....again, there is nothing to respond to. It's almost like magic.

it's so difficult to let it go.. I'll try

steve the gaming guy wrote:
Well thanks. My full version of King's Quest V has been done for a few weeks but my beta-tester wanted to pass it along to his programming friend before I post it on here. I don't want to toot my own horn but I'll say this though, if you put a lot of time into a game creating it, your work will definitely show in the end.

I am also working on Get Out of the Really Big House [currently working title]. It's the sequel to my first-ever game on Quest....well first game ever anywhere actually!

I started another game called Bonesaw. It's a comedy/horror. Strange combo but I think it'll be good. If I get cracking, I might be able to submit it in the IF contest. I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it though. We'll see.

wow sounds like you are a busy guy.
Bonesaw sounds cool. I like horror games. I look forwards to playing one day.

Lucy, Unknown, Zelimos vs. davidw.... at least that's what I'm seeing.

That annoys me a bit. I am trying to be fair and impartial, and despite the fact that I have been arguing with davidw (if you can call being insulted and responding to it "arguing"), I have also taken action against the others when they have done or said things which I think are out of line.

If davidw keeps putting himself in a belligerent position towards me, I have no intention of letting him walk all over me. If he starts acting like a gentleman he may find that I am much nicer in return. But that doesn't make me biased.

Ask The Unknown or O Vaughan if they think I am on "their side" - they have both had things locked, edited or deleted by me, and I won't put up with their crap any more than I will davidw's.

Ask The Unknown or O Vaughan if they think I am on "their side" - they have both had things locked, edited or deleted by me,

That's true. I can accept that. I wasn't trying to be insulting.

I think its the world vs. David

Daisy wrote:I think its the world vs. David

The Unknown brought up and then (I believe) retracted the idea that Davidw had a crew of sycophants here on the forums. I agree that he does not, although this may have been originally suggested by me in a post or two where I suggested that Davidw was tolerated due to his game writing abilities and esteem in the community.

I think what this is about is Davidw being in search of an entourage of sycophants. What I have referred as his "reign of tyranny" is actually a scenario where we have a madman in search of an army. His strategy of enrollment has thusfar been to pick out a few "marks" (myself included) and harangue us into submission or maybe as in Zelimos' case run us off altogether. Zelimos has returned but not without giving Davidw the satisfaction of a resignation speech. A trophy, if you will.

Now that I have unraveled Davidw's diabolical plot it will be interesting to see what plan he implements next from the Sociopath's Handbook.

Interesting point Vaughn. Thank you for explaining youf opinion in such a nice way as opposed to the sarcasm I've noticed of others.

I've seen some of Davids reviews and he does seem a bit full of himself but I guess thats OK if he knows his stuff.

O_VAUGHAN wrote:Now that I have unraveled Davidw's diabolical plot it will be interesting to see what plan he implements next from the Sociopath's Handbook.

I'll probably just settle for quoting posts of yours that make you look barking mad.

davidw wrote:

"O_VAUGHAN"

Now that I have unraveled Davidw's diabolical plot it will be interesting to see what plan he implements next from the Sociopath's Handbook.

I'll probably just settle for quoting posts of yours that make you look barking mad.

I suppose that you could quote me out of context like you do with The Unknown's prose but then why bother. Why deprive the world of another one of your degradations? You won't gain any sycophants quoting us.

No need to quote you out of context, Vaughan. Quoting your whole posts is enough to make you look mad.

Now that I have unraveled Davidw's diabolical plot it will be interesting to see what plan he implements next from the Sociopath's Handbook.

How can you sit there and type stuff like that and not realise how it makes you sound?

If someone uses the word "sycophant" again, I might shoot myself.

You sycophant.

*bang*

Now where did I put that mop and bucket?

Under that sycophant?
*points*

look whut i found::::

syc·o·phant - n - A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people.

You know how to use a dictionary? I'm impressed.

Uh, Uh, I'm g-gettin the... the v-vib-be...
Need to hack; n-need-d t-to...
Oh no, here I g-go-o-o-o-o
Ha, somewhat melodramatic, but...

SYCOPHANT: ANTSY CHOP;
N: 'N
A: A
SERVILE: LEVER IS
SELF-SEEKER: SELF. RE SEEK
WHO: HOW
ATTEMPTS: TA TEMPTS,
TO: TO
WIN: WIN.
FAVOR: FAVOR:
BY: BY
FLATTERING: FLATTING RE
INFLUENTIAL: FUN, NIL. TALE, I
PEOPLE:LO, PEEP.

Antsy chop; 'n a lever is self. Re seek how ta (to take) tempts, to win. Favor: by flatting re fun, nil. Tale, I, lo, peep.

-75. W.

I'm speaking from beyond the grave now. I am coming back to haunt all who continue using the word "sycophant"

davidw wrote:You know how to use a dictionary? I'm impressed.

tahts downright rude.

Daisy wrote:I think its the world vs. David

I don't have anything against him. I think that he's funny.

You guys need to wait a couple of days for me to come back before posting 6 new pages in this thread. jeez! Anyway, O_V' makes some very nice posts, it seems that when he does, DavidW comes back with something remarkably lame.

Like the "Pile of carpets Metaphor" (as i like to call it).

Well.. I can't really be bothered to type anything remotely insulting today.

Keep it up though guys, i'm loving this thread!

Oh, and here's a small update:

DavidW will post something offensive
Tron will post something
Anybody will post something offensive/retarded
The topic will get locked.

[Tr0n EDIT]
I removed swearing.

Zelimos wrote:Oh, and here's a small update:

DavidW will post something offensive
Tron will post something
Anybody will post something offensive/retarded
The topic will get locked.

Zelimos.

(There. That's about the most offensive thing I can post.)

Did you lose your Insult Dictionary or something? You're comebacks are getting worse and worse.

Oh, I thought it was quite witty myself. But then there have been so many trolls on the forum lately, dear Z, that I've been stretched a bit thin coming up with witty insults for them all. Maybe I should just hold back and let you make a fool of yourself. After all, you've never needed my help to look stupid in the past.

davidw wrote:Oh, I thought it was quite witty myself. But then there have been so many trolls on the forum lately, dear Z, that I've been stretched a bit thin coming up with witty insults for them all. Maybe I should just hold back and let you make a fool of yourself. After all, you've never needed my help to look stupid in the past.

What did you want to be when you were older? A lost boy? You sure did a good job not growing up, that's for sure.

You must hold some fantastic conversations in person.

"Hi David, what did you do today?"

"Oh ya know, went on AxeUK, tried to make fun of some people."

"Gee whiz David! You're the coolest kid on the block!"

"I know. I'm going to make it my personal goal to insult every person on the forum, apart from Tr0n, he's my evil sidekick... that's right 8) "

I think I only insult the idiots and the trolls on this forum.

Fortunately, Zelimos, you fit both categories really well.

davidw wrote:I think I only insult the idiots and the trolls on this forum.

Fortunately, Zelimos, you fit both categories really well.

that is wpoken from the biggest troll in the world. I can see now how you baited me into your little reign of terror. You are a troll to the highest degree. Knock any old ladies down today? kick in small kids in the shins? You are a troll make no mistake about that.

The Buck
has spoken

I haven't threatened to gut anyone with a rusty hook for hitting on my doe, if that's what you mean.

no that's not what I mean.. and you know it..... troll

Hmmmm, the last of his predictions is just coming true.
[LOCKED]
Because it's just insults now.