Shiversword 2: The Magic Harp by CJ592

This is the sequel to Shiversword: The Beginning.
Shiversword is on the trail of the famous Magic Harp, after his friend and Mentor John Lemon died leaving him a map. However his journey leads him into the path of a superstitious treasure hunter, participating in the Eggs Factor and coming face to face with a religious cult.
Comment robyn334
24 Oct 2018
I did have to restart. I tried bleaching the red wool but it didn't work. Green before red! Thanks for your help!

Comment DavyB
22 Oct 2018
Welldone! Did you have to restart after dying the wool red? According to danaburgerrr you could then not finish but perhaps the game has been updated since then?

Comment robyn334
22 Oct 2018
Never mind! Finished and won. :)

Comment robyn334
21 Oct 2018
OK. I've dyed the wool red (was that a mistake?) I have the green paste but nothing to put it on. What do I clean in the tank? Thanks for the help!

Comment DavyB
21 Oct 2018
Sorry Robyn334, this is CJ592 playing with us...it's a red herring...there is nothing in the stalls!

Comment robyn334
21 Oct 2018
I have numbers, but I can't figure out the command to look at the stalls. Hint? :)

Comment robyn334
19 Oct 2018
Got it! Thanks! :)

Comment DavyB
19 Oct 2018
robyn334, just go down the staircase again and you will find you can now go south because the hole you have revealed is letting in a shaft of light. Happy to help if you get stuck later on...

Comment robyn334
18 Oct 2018
Thanks so much for responding!
But I don't get" head let's light". What did I miss?

Review DavyB
18 Oct 2018
Following the review by danaburgerrr in 2014, suggesting that there were glitches in this game, I was a bit reluctant to tackle it. However, I was tempted in yesterday by a comment from robyn334 who was stuck in the first stage. I ended up playing it for the rest of the day!

It looks as if CJ592 may have updated the game since 2014, as I couldn't find the glitch mentioned by danaburgerrr, or another one mentioned in earlier comments. I enjoyed it and completed it successfully so here is the review...

I like this classic style of game (only interaction with clearly identified items with limited verb use) and the author has an impressive back catalogue. Unfortunately, however, as suggested by danaburgerrr, this game doesn't feel sufficiently well finished off to warrant five stars. Another days work to take out typos and make sure there are adequate responses in all circumstances would make a huge difference. More flexibility in the use of commands would also help.

That said, the game seems good as it stands, and the extensive comments provide clues to cover many of the situations where someone might get stuck. Overall, therefore, I recommend it, but warn that you need to be prepared for a few rough edges!

Comment DavyB
17 Oct 2018
robyn334, I played two of CJs Sir Loin games recently but stayed away from this one as reviews suggest there are glitches in it and there is no sign of the author. Fixing the game may also be a problem as it is in Quest 4 format.

The game seems fun but the implementation is a bit rough. For example, if I try to drop the lute or map initially there is an empty reply which I assume should be "You can't do that." or equivalent.

I can help you move on, however! Clue: Moving the head let's light into the chamber below.

Comment robyn334
16 Oct 2018
I see the last comment here was in 2014, so I have no idea if help is still available!
I can't seem to get started. I have been into the temple, pushed the gate, have the rod, x the markings on the altar, moved the head. That's all I can do. I have looked at, examined and tried to use everything. I have played my 2 songs everywhere. Every time I read the map it says "You read the map" but it doesn't tell me what it says. Help!

Review danaburgerrr
29 Dec 2014
I totally love this series, and I have since I played the first Sir Loin game, but this game was probably the weakest out of all of them. the reason I say this is because I had to restart the game not once, but twice, due to glitches which make it impossible to continue (which is unusual for your games). the first is when you're on the search for snails for Al: if you've already fed the sheep and gotten the gloves, and you go back to the field and take more grass before speaking to Al about the snails, there is no way to continue. the final snail that you need to find is hidden in the long grass, but if you already have a handful of grass, you can't drop it and the sheep won't eat it, and examining the grass does not reveal the snail either. so you're at an impasse and must restart. the second glitch occurs later in the game when crafting the wig: if you dye the wool red immediately before dying it green with the green paste, you're again at an impasse. the obvious thing to do is try to wash it clean with the bleach in the tank, but this doesn't work, and you need the red dye later for something else and there is no way to get more wool from the sheep. these glitches are frustrating after making progress in the game, and on top of that the story is a bit silly this time around (and I am usually such a fan of your humor), and there are also a few non-obvious commands like having to speak to the carp, or sell things to the oracle. with a bit more thought and development of objects and scenes and a few more hints available, this game could be really great. like I said, I'm a fan of everything else you've done, but this one missed the mark for me on many levels. I did, however, appreciate the mention of the Carnivora Nuns at the end.

Comment danaburgerrr
24 Dec 2014
assuming the final snail is in the pasture of long grass, there is a glitch in the game where after you take the grass and feed it to the sheep, if you take another handful of grass you can't drop it and the sheep doesn't want it, and then you can't find the snail. very upsetting as I've already progressed in this game. have to start over now, boo. :(

Comment Nanuck
11 Apr 2014
I can't give Edison back the camera, it says to take the battery out first but it's not in there.

Comment Helen1
07 Sep 2012
I'm stuck - I have the camera but Edison took the battery - his shop is locked and I can't get to him to get the battery (which I think I need to progress). I've done the snails, can't find a dog or the means to get the wool off the sheep to make a wig. HELP

Comment sarah4
04 May 2012
Sonali, you don't need to move the sheep to the tank at any point, though you will need the tank to clean something you get from the sheep later in the game. If you haven't done so already, use some of the grass from the adjacent field on the sheep and it will move to reveal something you will need in order to help Edison in the lightning plain.

04 May 2012
how to move the sheep to the tank??

Comment sarah4
14 Apr 2012
Sooz: yes, you do need gloves, you'll need to go back to Elliott's Bottom to find them, to find them you need to get the sheep to move, this can be done by offering it a sheep-friendly snack you might find nearby. Hope this helps.

Comment sooz
14 Apr 2012
stuck! just found the lightening plain - do i need gloves?

04 Apr 2012
A little trouble with the verbage on things like the battery and chair, but overall another GREAT game. Any word on Sir Loin 4?

Comment sarah4
04 Apr 2012
Marcos, have you got the glasses from the theatre box? If so just use them when you're in the field with Edison. Hope this helps. If you're having trouble getting the key to the theatre box make sure you've spoken to olive and examined the desk when you manage to get rid of her briefly.

Comment Marcos Artiaga
03 Apr 2012
How do you help Edison find the lightning plain?

Comment sarah4
31 Mar 2012
Mclovin, what are you stuck on?

Review mclovin
31 Mar 2012
not sure what to do

Comment ahsat
06 Aug 2011
I do have the wool and dye but they are no longer seperate ;) I thought I had tried the battery/bulb thing..I shall try again thank you!

Annabel wasn't bad IMHO. -> Do you have the Thyme? :D You are the first author where I enjoyed their games, tricky yet playable, witty, and fun. So I 'spose you should work on your uncompleted games so I have something to do after finishing all of them! lol.

My mouse button's right-click is broken so the right-click and drag option is useless to me (to give). is there a way for you to perhaps add a button in future games? I also like that in some games you have the option to "examine" when double-clicking an item.

Comment CJ592
06 Aug 2011
Plus you havent mentioned the wool. Have you still got the wool? and green dye?

Comment CJ592
06 Aug 2011
you need to remove the battery from the camera. then use it on the bulb, when it glows you can put it in the bowl

Comment CJ592
06 Aug 2011
lol. thanks. Wheres annabel was one of my earliest attempts. Haha, I can't believe how bad it was. Yep still working on a couple of things. Glad you like them. Don't forget to rate them :)
CJ

Review ahsat
06 Aug 2011
I am stuck again. I believe I need something that resembles a glowing crystal ball. I have a dull bulb, clay bowl, crystal bowl, and cannot combine them. I don't have a new location either. I have the biography, camera, dress, autograph, and red dye also. What's next please?

Comment ahsat
06 Aug 2011
d'oh. thank you! I just finished Where's Annabel, are you still working on the sequel? Thanks again.

Comment CJ592
06 Aug 2011
hi ahsat
The battery is under the stage. You have to examine the rig twice!

CJ

Comment ahsat
06 Aug 2011
Hi CJ, I have to say I love your games, I have played a few and am hooked on text adventures and have been working through your games :D I was wondering if I could get some help on the location of the battery? TIA

Comment LinaLyssic
18 Jun 2011
I'd appreciate some help with the sheep. How can I get it to the tank? Or am I supposed to shave it? (I've got no clue on how to do that though...)
And I need to bring light to Edison to cheer him up, but I can't recharge the battery to get the light bulb working. Please help me...

Comment CJ592
29 Apr 2011
HI Natloud. It depends when you are trying to read it. If I can remember rightly, there is one specific time during the game when reading the biography is important to the quest.
What have you tried with it? and what does it say?
CJ

Comment Natloud
28 Apr 2011
Can't get Shiversword to read the biography. What's the secret?

Comment Secret geek
09 Jan 2011
Yep, done all the Sir Loin games, Darkness Falls and both Mansion (although stuck on the second at the moment). All brilliant.
I'll check our Tim Hamilton's. Thanks

Comment CJ592
09 Jan 2011
Hi Secret Geek. I recommend all of Tim Hamiltons games. They are excellent. Plus the mansion ones.
Have you done my Sir Loin games? And my darkness falls?

Comment Secret geek
09 Jan 2011
Done! Game completed. i've done all the Shiversword Tales now. Any recommendations for what to play next? I'm addicted!

Comment Secret geek
09 Jan 2011
forget my last post. I've got all 5 songs and won the competition. Edison has my camera now though and i have a feeling i still need it :(

Comment Secret geek
08 Jan 2011
i don't have the camera. Am i able to get it from Edison? His shop is closed. i've tried starting the game again so that i get to the point of getting Edison's camera to work but can't for the life of me remember how i got the gloves last time

Comment CJ592
05 Jan 2011
Then i think the song you are missing is dedicated to Simon of the Cowl. you still have the camera? Try photographing him

Comment Secret geek
05 Jan 2011
Hi, Thank you for responding.
I have 'Hopelessly devoted', 'Ray of Light', 'Yesteryear' and 'Mysterious Wench'.

Comment CJ592
03 Jan 2011
Hi secret geek. Which songs have you got?

Comment Secret geek
01 Jan 2011
Please help me! I can not get the 5th song. Any hints? Loving the game btw

Comment DAN PERDUE
27 Jun 2010
Thanks. I started playing As Darkness falls 2 to feed my addiction and now I am stuck on that one. You are a true Artist your games rock!!

Comment CJ592
27 Jun 2010
Hi
Edison is fascinated by light. perhaps you can find a 'beam of light' to be inspired by.

Comment DAN PERDUE
27 Jun 2010
ok I am really stuck and getting frustrated. I have the flat battery and the bulb only three songs and I can'y get edison to talk to me. How do I write a song for him?

Comment sue butler
07 Apr 2010
Yes I did enjoy it and The darkness falls couplet very much{ I think that one is yours] I am however completely stumped on The Holy Quail game I can,t find how to get another coin for the marriage certificate ,Get in the libary or clean the sticky sock .

Comment CJ592
07 Apr 2010
I hope your enjoying it sue. I tend to write the game to to use the click and drag use A with B rather than trying to find the correct verbs (which always annoyed me when playing games)

ps remember the carp is a character. You can talk to it ;)

Comment sue butler
07 Apr 2010
I think I am nearly at the end stuck in barn with magic carp

Comment sue butler
07 Apr 2010
still can,t read biography fast enough maybe game makers should consider old computers and slow fingers!!

Comment sue butler
07 Apr 2010
Hands up what a dork my son showed me how to click and drag!!!

Comment sue butler
06 Apr 2010
ok really annoying I know what to do now but can,t type fast enough to do it and when I try to use the panes and click on use it always tells me I can,t use that particular item there what do other people do?

Comment sue butler
05 Apr 2010
I know I need to attach the rod to the battery but can,t find the correct verb

Review sue butler
04 Apr 2010
Enjoying game so far but can,t find how to charge battery or get a fifth song{I have the one from the ray of light}any hints please

Comment Mini
23 Feb 2010
Ok, I think I just discovered something awesome. After you return the camera to edison, if you give him the battery, he starts taking pictures of the lightning again. Then if you speak to him, he gives you the camera again. If you return it to him again, he gives you a gold piece again. You can keep doing this to get lotsa gold. :) :)

Comment Mini
22 Feb 2010
But I still can't sit on the chair - I just get up again.

Comment Mini
22 Feb 2010
Never mind, found the swampy plain. :)

Comment Mini
22 Feb 2010
I talked to edison and he just asks me to help him find a swampy plain. How do I do that? Also, it doesn't let me sit on the chair in the mystic's tent.

Comment CJ592
21 Feb 2010
Hi Tony. Glad you got is solved.

Have you played the Sir Loin games? I think it was Sir Loin 2 that introduced the Carnivora nuns. You'll see the connection.....

Comment Tony
21 Feb 2010
Not to worry. I had a word with the magic harp and all is well. I wasn't expecting the carnivora nuns!!!!

Comment Tony
21 Feb 2010
I could do with a hint. I must be dangerously close to finishing it but I'm stuck. I'm in the barn having rescued the "magic harp" but the followers have me trapped. I can't seem to do anything with them, the priest, the mule or the press to escape. A gentle push in the right direction would be lovely.

I also found the battery/camera problem others have mentioned. Spent ages trying to get into Edisons place for the battery and then realised the battery was already in the camera despite the description saying it wasn't.

Review pofke
02 Oct 2009
OK, got a lot further now. Did dog, Al,... I just cant return Edison's camera. He keeps insisting that I take the battery out.

But when I look at the camera it sais that the battery is NOT inside...

Do I need to take more photo's? Maybe a nice picture in the dress? ;)

Anyway, very nice game!!!

Comment CJ592
28 Sep 2009
sounds like you need a ray of light ;)

Comment pofke
28 Sep 2009
I have the one about commitment and the original 2.

Comment CJ592
25 Sep 2009
Which ones have you got so far?

Comment pofke
24 Sep 2009
Mmmmm, great game so far!!!! But i'm a little stuck now. Got 3 songs but probably need another one before I can talk to Edison. Where can i find some inspiration?

Comment colvin
07 Aug 2009
Nevermind, I got it.

Comment colvin
07 Aug 2009
For some reason I cannot read the biography. I think I have everything I need for the tent, is there something I need to do first?

Comment ichigo
19 Feb 2009
Finished it, finally! The Queen never appeared on her own - had to debug it before & after the barn - but I think that might be a problem with my downloading, not your game!
A good game, although as others have said, it was a little frustrating sometimes, trying to find precisely the right command for some things and having to do the same thing repeatedly to eventually get a different response. But generally, thanks, it was good fun!

Comment CJ592
02 Feb 2009
I have just played it through again. When you get to the court (where the statue is) Go north to the palace. The Queen should be there! She was when I played it through

Comment CJ592
02 Feb 2009
Have you found the barn to the south where the cult are?

Comment ichigo
01 Feb 2009
I'm stuck.
I have got to the palace but there's nothing there except a statue (no Queen). I have the dress and the red wig, but it won't let me wear them. I've also not used the clay bowl, but can't work out where on earth it could be necessary!
TIA.

Comment ichigo
01 Feb 2009
I'm stuck.
I have got to the palace but there's nothing there except a statue (no Queen). I have the dress and the red wig, but it won't let me wear them. I've also not used the clay bowl, but can't work out where on earth it could be necessary!
TIA.

Review max
13 Nov 2008
Playing your games is so much better than working.

01 Nov 2008
Never mind, I got there in the end! Overall a fantastic game - the only issue I found was the difficulty in interacting with/using some of the objects (the battery, the chair etc). That said, it was an extremely entertaining game, and I look forward to trying out the Sir Loin games! Thanks!

01 Nov 2008
Hi! I have a small problem and wondering whether it is a glitch? I am trying to give the camera back to Edison but keep being told that I should take the battery out first. However, when I read the description it tells me that there is no battery in the camera, and every action I have tried - open camera, examine camera etc etc brings no results....

Any help on this would be appreciated!!! THANKS!!!

Comment CJ592
21 Oct 2008
Have you played my Sir Loin games (1 and 2) I have nearly finished Sir Loin 3

21 Oct 2008
Finally completed this today! Yipee :-) Thoroughly enjoyed playing this game - its kept me entertained for days. Thank you and well done! Are there any plans in the pipeline for no 3 - if so can't wait.

Comment CJ592
20 Oct 2008
Did you check the sheep dip area for the fifth snail?

Comment Jules Davidson
20 Oct 2008
Thanks for your reply CJ592. Got out from under stage - climbed rig (god how think? lol) sold map a little while ago.
Only thing I am stuck on now is the snails.......i've got 4 but cannot find the last one. I've look everywhere but have come to a standstill. I know it'll be something really obvious :-)
I think I got the 4 from, long grasses, dais, hole and altar? if i've remembered rightly that is.

Comment CJ592
17 Oct 2008
you should be able to climb out from under the stage.

Did you sell the map to the oracle to get the money?

Comment Jules Davidson
17 Oct 2008
ok sorted - now got the bulb, flat battery (now recharged!) :-) will plough on!

Comment Jules Davidson
17 Oct 2008
help!!!! really enjoying this so far but im STUCK...... Here's were I'm at:I am looking for the battery for edisons camera? Can't get the sheep to do anything even though gave it grass and have filled sheep dip. Got pass, found wallet, got glasses, up to 4 songs 1 more needed and spent all gold that i have on fortune and opera glasses. Pulled lever on stage to get light bulb and ended up stuck and couldnt get out - good job i saved beforehand!
I know I'm useless and give up too easily but its so addictive! AAAARHHHH!

Comment max
09 Oct 2008
Wow, apparantly "sit on chair" works, but "sit in chair" doesn't. Nor does "take chair".

Comment CJ592
09 Oct 2008
Also, are you wearing the cloak?

Comment CJ592
09 Oct 2008
Does 'sit on chair' not work?

Comment CJ592
09 Oct 2008
The best way to make money is to sell something. Try giving things to the oracle

Comment max
08 Oct 2008
Scratch that. I've advance to the point of being in Madam Mayi's tent. I have the cloak, wig and fake ball. But I can't sit in the chair. I'm not sure what else I have to do. There's no other clues in the painting.

Comment max
08 Oct 2008
Stuck.
I'm in Elliot's Bottom, but don't have any money to enter the contest, buy the glasses or get my fortune read. Where do I get gold?

Comment CJ592
06 Aug 2008
Okay, it depends on what you've done so far. If the tunnel is too dark, you will have to find a way to light it. Try using the rod on the statue head

Comment caleb
06 Aug 2008
yeah is there something i was missing down there
.

Comment caleb
06 Aug 2008
yeah is there something i was missing down there
.

Comment CJ592
05 Aug 2008
Have you gone down into the tunnel below?

Review caleb
04 Aug 2008
i just started and want to know after you push the gate down where you go

Review Steve2
02 Jun 2008
I found this quite difficult but just as engaging. The eggs factor was a good idea. The ending felt a bit rushed though
And... because I played the other games, it was interesting to see what happened to the press. It was never explained in Sir Loin as to why it was suddenly broken. Now we know!

Comment CJ592
25 May 2008
IN that case you probably haven't sold the map to the oracle

Comment GAMER!
25 May 2008
But you need to spend the gold you get from the chemist to enter the eggs factor and to get a reading from the person in the tent.

Comment CJ592
25 May 2008
You get money from the chemist, Edison- when his shop reopens and you return his camera and the Oracle when you sell him your Simon autograph

Comment GAMER!
25 May 2008
How do you get 5 gold to buy the red dye?

Comment CJ592
23 May 2008
Read the biography (gained from Olive)

Comment GAMER!
23 May 2008
What do you do when elliot comes into the tent and you are asked how to find out the answer?

Comment CJ592
23 May 2008
She gives you the collar after you show her evidence that you have found a pedigree for her. (Sounds like you need to use the camera again)

Comment GAMER!
23 May 2008
I seem to get stuck every 2 seconds in this game! How do I get the collar from the party dress shop in burningham?

Comment CJ592
23 May 2008
Have you got the cloth? If you look at it then it will tell you a new location has been opened from the world map.
If you can't get past the dark room, then maybe there is something you can do with the rod. Think a-head! ;)

Comment CJ592
23 May 2008
Aha. I'd start photographing some people

Comment GAMER!
23 May 2008
How do you get the 5th song? I've got the 2 songs you start with, ray of light and hopelessly devoted but I don't have any idea how to get more.

Comment braden
23 May 2008
I mean, IN the mausileum

Comment CJ592
23 May 2008
Have you examined the mausoleum? Push the gates and they should fall

Comment braden
23 May 2008
I don't know what to do in the mausoleum(or whatever it is.) What do I do now??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Comment CJ592
22 May 2008
That's it for the chemist. He should have paid you. The end objective for most of the Burningham is to get the money to buy the red dye.
Have you solved the puzzle of the dog?
Have you won the Eggs factor?
The paste is green. The same colour as someone's hair!

Comment GAMER!
22 May 2008
I'm not sure what to do now. I've got the 5 snails and the chemist has taken them. I've made the paste and no idea what to do now.

Comment GAMER!
16 May 2008
It was so simple!

Comment GAMER!
16 May 2008
I have no idea what to do in burningham. I've got the green paste and the clay bowl.

Comment CJ592
12 May 2008
Firstly, have you got the book from The Oracle? When you play him your lute?
Otherwise keep talking to Olive After she has inspired the song, show her the leaflet

Comment GAMER!
12 May 2008
I'm stuck. I'm in elliott's bottom snd I don't have a clue. I've given the cloth to olive and got the bulb and the battery but have no idea what to do now.

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